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Go pick on someone your own size

Friday 11th of September 2009
Property investors could well feel battered and bruised after many of the comments made in the media, following yesterday’s official cash rate announcement.

I’ll put it on the record now. Much of this property investor bashing is totally unwarranted. There is a perception, which is wrong in my view, that all these investors are hell-bent traders and speculators, buying and selling residential properties non-stop.

Wrong. The large majority of the investors we deal with through the NZ Property Investor Magazine and www.landlords.co.nz are conservative, buy-and-hold investors.

Some people chose to invest in shares, others prefer managed funds, while others go for cash and fixed interest. Many people have decided that property is their preferred means of saving and providing for their retirement. There are lots of reasons for this, and all of them quite valid. They range from the desire to hold something tangible they can see, touch and feel, through to having poor experiences in the sharemarket.

So I often come across investors who feel they have been unfairly castigated and discriminated against because of their choice of investment. Their view is at least they are doing something to plan for their retirement and aren’t relying in taxpayer-funded pension from the state.

Investing in property is not like some of the other asset classes. Yes, there are different tax rules and there are benefits like depreciation and gearing.

What seems to get lost in this debate is that these people are not only investors. They are running a business providing a service to fellow New Zealanders. Therefore, they quite rightly can use some of the same structures as business owners, such as loss attributing qualifying companies (LAQCs).

The other thing which surprises me is some of the comments about putting a capital gains tax on property investors. For the record, there already is one. The Inland Revenue Department is on a $15 million, three-year education and enforcement campaign to enforce this part of the law.

Already it has pulled in hundreds of millions of dollars in unpaid tax.

One comment I do agree with from Dr Bollard is this: He says New Zealanders should not consider housing investment to be a one-way bet. Investment expectations need to be realistic. We won’t go back to the boom times of the past eight years. However, in the long run, property prices, like those of other asset classes, tend to appreciate.
Comments (6)
Paul Magill
There are x amount in houses in New Zealnd. <br />Someone has to own them, if its not new zealanders who will it be ? <br />A huge amount of people rent, who does Bollard think they are going to be renting houses from ?? <br /> <br />Does he want us all to keep our money in the bank and leave the houses to be owned by the state and foreigners ?
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Aileen Cutting-Gardner
Hello, I am sorry to say this is the go I was in parliment <br />in front of Daziell for the Loss Investors of NZ yesterday <br />and she just hit back saying why do you kiwis invest in Finance Cos and Houses, my reply to her was do you - oh no <br />leave my money in the back, my reply was because you earn <br />four times the amount of the average worker in NZ. I have houses and now at 65 years I am able to retire on two supers <br />luck me, and able in 18 months to cash up to buycar/holiday <br />I have been able to help my family get into houses by mortgaging myself to a stage and them taking over the mortgages, why dont they bug off and leave us alone, brought my first house when I was 21 now 65 loss a bit, gained a bit, not much but most of learned a hell of a lot. <br />have a good and good investing -
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15 years ago

tess nicholson
I couldn't agree more with your recent comments. I have been in the market investing in property since 2001. There seems to be this perspective that all property investors are greedy, making lots of money off of people and in some way causing all the issues we have today. <br />It is a very one-eyed view with little substance to it. I, like many other investors have had big issues with tenants, have to put money in often to shore the investment up and I might add provide housing for people that the Government cannot provide for. <br />I am simply interested in having some savings for my retirement, and this is one investment I understand better than any other.
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15 years ago

Johanna Carter
Good article - well said. I suspect a lot of these complainees have vested interests and would rather people invested in their pet project instead. <br />Agreed Paul - it has long been acknowledged by a range of government agencies that if it were not for the private rental housing market there would be an even greater shortage of housing accomodation.
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15 years ago

Arthur Murray
Two sides to this. I have commercial properties, purchased over 20 odd years because they were profitable from day one. Pretty weel impossible to get proper returns on todays prices. <br />If a property is purchased that is un profitable and the owner relies on a LAQC to lessen the loss, then that owner is not an investor/landord, that owner is a speculator relying on capital growth to turn pre tax income into tax free gain. This type of property is very easy to spot, poorly maintained, rough and low quality tenants. You see them everywhere. <br />The tax treatment is the problem and that requires fixing. I agree that an acroos the board capital gains tax is not the ideal fix, neither is a property tax which is being discussed and thats worse than capital gains tax. <br />The wider effect is over valued property compared to incomes. The funding for value increases has and is via imported money. Our exporters just cannot sell enough stuff overseas to keep ahead of the real estate debt. That is why we are the second most indebted nation in OECD and why rightly Dr Bollard is concened. We should all be. <br /> <br />Property owners with debt are the biggest importers (money) in the country. They are spending all our exporters income. <br /> <br />Interesting when I brought my first site, the ratio to income was 3 to 1. My son is trying to buy a first home for his new family close to a transport hub as he works in the CBD. Based on the average income the ratio is a massive 15 to 1 and the properties are old and average. <br /> <br />We should support Dr Bollard and lobby for useful change, not run him down.
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15 years ago

BOB SYMON
Let the IRD loose, but the real investors that buy and hold should be helped not hindered. <br /> <br />Simply put - an investment purchased and held for a period of say seven years ought to be exempt the property tax or capital gains. <br /> <br />Thus the real investors are proven whilst those who cheat by stating the intention of purchase is for investment then flipping properties for a quick tax enhanced gain, will show up and are fair IRD fodder!
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15 years ago

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