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Dealer groups join

Monday 26th of May 2014

Dealer groups TNP and Ginger Group have annouced that they have formed “a strategic alliance.”

TNP managing director Jeff Page says the two groups have mission statements and value propositions which are already very similar.

“Both groups have developed many tools, systems and processes that enable the growth of advisers’ businesses. Under the terms of the strategic alliance, each group’s advisers will be able to take advantage of these now combined benefits.”

Page says the two groups are still “working through more details” of the merger.

The combined will have:

  • 710 advisers;
  • $37 million of annual premium income (API) written per year;
  • $365 million of funds under management;
  • $192 million of funds under management in KiwiSaver;
  • Over $100 million of in-force API.

The strategic alliance will strengthen each adviser group and give us scale, which in turn will allow us to further invest in the tools required by our adviser base to grow their businesses. It will also help increase our collective exposure, which will attract new advisers to us and the industry.

Comments (7)
gavin austin
A good result for most. I would suspect there will be some rationalization around adviser numbers. The numbers will stack up even more after this and $50k api is not a bad starting point given that a reasonable number of the AFAs associated with the new group will not write any API at all. Today AFAs recognizes that sticking to what you know best, and referring other needs to professionals who are better equipped to fulfill the needs of the client, is a better all round client care approach. There's an old industry saying that goes something like " stick to your knitting" and many advisers are seeing the benefit of doing this in the new complex world of being compliant. Less product knowledge to worry about, less research, less paperwork = more time with fewer high value clients = more professionalism = more consumer confidence. The combined resources of the Group will help deliver better outcomes for all. Apart from being part of a QFE ( which arguably doesn't always produce better outcomes for ALL parties) this is a great way forward.
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10 years ago

Ron Flood
First everyone slags off at Professional Bodies (IFA recently) and now it's time to slag off at Ginger/TNP. Colin, please, if you are currently a member of either group, please resign. The Group does not need negative members who don't want to go on a journey of development,enrichment and empowerment, all of which this joint venture offers. With regards being on a cruise, this was Ginger Groups annual conference and I for one enjoyed the great speakers provided. I now have a clearer vision of where I am and where I want to be, thanks to these speakers. I know my business will be better for it. Billy, with regards jumping ship, I remind you that is not always greener on the other side. I suggest that there is no other Group in the market place that is more broker focused than the Ginger/TNP partnership.
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10 years ago

David Whyte
As Ginger Group's first CEO, I'm very pleased to see this development - it's good for the industry, good for the membership(s), and yes, good for the founders/directors of both organisations. There will always be some who look for the negative aspects, or who are envious of those who have the foresight, imagination, and vision to embark on journeys as did the founding parties of Ginger Group and TNP. Faced with the growing influence of institutional offers to AFAs and RFAs, it makes perfect commercial sense for an alliance of this nature to be contemplated. Susan Edmunds article in Asset Magazine this month - "Changing Face of Adviser Force" - is an important contribution to understanding the evolution of the changing market and regulated industry for advisers. Compulsory reading before making any comment on issues such as TNP/Ginger Group alliance. The combined quality of I.P and personnel resources available to members of the alliance - and I make no apology for mentioning individuals such as John Commins and Dr Dave McMillan - are important resources for advisers to be able to access. Improving the offer to members has been a foundation driver of both TNP and Ginger Group, and by developing such an alliance, this will enhance the combined entities ability to achieve that. Hopefully, the founders of both groups who had the entrepreneurial spirit and backbone to accept the risks at the outset, receive commensurately enhanced rewards. I wish my former colleagues at GG and all at TNP the best of good fortune with the new venture.
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10 years ago

Jeff Goldsworthy
Thank you Ron Flood - a common sense approach and response as always.
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10 years ago

Simon Rule
A timely article. Dealer Groups as most of us know have done a wonderful job at convincing the banks (especially) and insurers that they should only deal with brokers and advisers that are members of their groups. Whilst most of us are probably reasonably happy with what they do for us and our businesses it’s naive to think dealer groups like TNP/Ginger, NZFSG, Share etc. are always going to be the preferred option for independent advisers in the future especially with the way technology is advancing so fast. The biggest threat to the future of Dealer Groups will be when the insurers (and banks) have software to enable advisers to send applications directly to them without involving a third party's software like Quote Monster etc. Meantime whilst the going is good and the insurers are paying these “dealer cuts” based on API issued each month it’s a lolly scramble for them. Dealer Groups and their owners are primarily focused at present on the significant income stream been generated by the API that advisers write collectively each month i.e. the "dealer cut" that the insurers pay these groups. Members need to understand that dealer groups are making sizable profits off the collective API been issued each month by members businesses combined. This is something that most advisers seem "clueless" about. The insurer is thus essentially paying “twice” for the policy and this cost is ultimately met by the policyholder and the premiums our clients pay each month for their cover.
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10 years ago

AFA Muggins
I think once the industry starts maturing, advisers may realise they can have a real value proposal for clients that they can charge direct fees to clients for engagement. Fees that are not based on funds under management, and the client is happy to pay them. There is no umbilical cord to product commissions, product suppliers, nor aggregation arrangements. It is possible and is being done now.
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10 years ago

Scott Black
As CEO of SHARE I immediately own up to a certain bias, but please do not make the mistake of assuming all Groups are the same. As a co-operative, SHARE is owned by our Advisers and operates on a flat fee structure. Most, if not all, of the Group over-ride that we receive from the suppliers is passed back to the adviser whose efforts generated it. The fees pay for the technology support, branding, and succession planning services that we offer. I take nothing away from TNP, Ginger, Newpark, NZFSG or any of the other Groups that operate in the market – as long as they add value to both their members and the insurers/lenders that they deal with, then they will survive and prosper. And if that happens, then hopefully the public of NZ will be well served by increased access to professional, independent, compliant financial advice.
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10 years ago

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