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Ratings tool criticised

Tuesday 5th of March 2013

Grosvenor head of marketing and business services Andrew Lendnal has questioned the methodology of Canstar, a research firm that rates a number of other financial products including home loans, KiwiSaver schemes, term deposits and credit cards.

Canstar bases 70% of its KiwiSaver ratings on fees, with the remaining 30% on features such as investment options, account access and communication.

ASB and Superlife both received five-star ratings in all three categories (conservative, balanced and growth), while the award-winning Milford Asset Management scored only three stars.  Grosvenor’s funds were awarded two stars.

Lendnal said the value of the survey was minimal because of its heavy focus on the fee aspect, with factors such as fund performance ignored.

“The analysis they do is based on fee structures… if you are ASB yes you will have cheap fees and you’ll be right at the top.”

Canstar New Zealand general manager Derek Bonnar said:  “While performance is not guaranteed, fees are known and do have an impact on the final retirement benefit of KiwiSavers.  A small difference in fees can have a substantial difference on the final retirement savings of the individual investor.”

Canstar’s doesn’t measure fund outperformance, although it looks out for persistent underperformance as this can be an “indicator of broader management or systemic issues which may be impacting the investment performance,” Bonnar said.

“We have taken the decision not to make a judgement on the sustainability of investment returns,” he said.

“While we recognise that some fund managers have outperformed the market, there is a wide range of research which indicates that the majority of fund managers cannot persistently outperform a benchmark over the long term i.e. 10-plus years.

“Given that KiwiSaver is not only a long-term investment but a lifetime investment, consumers cannot reasonably rely upon current top performers sustaining that position.” 

Diversified director Norman Stacey, who manages the Law Retirement KiwiSaver Scheme which received a one-star rating, said he wasn’t familiar with Canstar and wasn’t aware of his scheme’s low rating.

But he said the proliferation of different ratings systems with different methodologies could cause confusion for investors.
“It must be hugely confusing; everyone claims to be fund manager of the year.”

Comments (7)
alan milton
The old story. Would you rather have a net return after fees of 6% after fees of 2% or a net return of 5% after fees of 1%. Fees are a consideration but the net return is more important. The average punter just doesn't get it.
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11 years ago

Brent Sheather
Duh, this is not the old story . This is the story. Fees impact returns. Look at a quote from an unbiased expert Debbie Harrison, Senior Visiting Fellow of the Pensions Institute at the Cass Business School who said “there is little academic evidence to support the argument often heard from advisers that asset management and the potential for outperformance is more important than cost”. The sooner advisers get to grips with reality the sooner this business will become respected. Until then it seems like we will have to put up with this sort of nonsense. You cannot predict which fund manager is going to outperform but numerous studies show that the higher the fees the lower the performance, ceteris paribus. Fact. Pity this sort of stuff isn’t taught in AFA courses or CPD. Huge indictment of some members of the Code Committee not to mention all the dodgy industry groups.
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11 years ago

Clayton Coplestone
Brent - you are wrong. A bit of common sense tells you that "Traveller" understands that investors are only interested in what they get in their hands (ie: after fees returns). Most investors would happily pay a premium for net returns that are in line with their expectations (ie: the risk premium). The problem with some studies in this area, is that they focus on the whole universe of funds available, without screening out those that are most interested in managing their business risk in preference to delivering returns.
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11 years ago

Brent Sheather
RE: Independent Observers comment That may be true but it ignores the fact, rehearsed by the Economist Magazine, the Financial Times, the FSA blah blah blah that fees impact returns. I must say that I do agree with your last comment – that if you screen out all those fund managers that underperform you will get a very good result for fund manager performance relative to an index! Reminds me of a female fund manager who was quoted not so long ago as saying that her portfolios would have had a very good year had they not owned a few stocks which went down! This really is a fun industry to be in! Regards Brent
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11 years ago

Regan Thomas
I bought a bottle of Wine a few weeks ago. It had a little gold sticker on it proclaiming it had won an award from some magazine for being red fluid of the week or whatever; and another little silver sticker saying some wine taster "recommends" it. It did what it said on the label - when I opened it it was wine. But it wasn't very nice. A bit like some of these fund ratings and awards, really.
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11 years ago

Clayton Coplestone
Graeme Tee: It's not that difficult to find managers, with healthy after-fee returns over various cycles (ie: it's important not to jump on the band-wagon after a ripper market / market segment). The best starting point is to eliminate those Managers who have failed to deliver. I reckon that Brent Sheather could give you a hand there... as its the majority of Funds that are on offer in the NZ industry (apologies to the handful that are delivering). Next - ensure that the Manager has a vested interest in delivering your success... or to put it another way: is not asset gathering, or planning to bail when they've attracted enough FUA. The last bit, is to keep an eye on them. Most quality Managers will cap their FUA, and then go to great lengths to ensure that their clients are aware of their actions. Hope that helps - as it's comments like "....with the benefit of hindsight..." that ignore the robust capabilities that are available.
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11 years ago

Daryl McAlinden
Canstar knows the price of everything but the value of nothing (with apologies to Oscar Wilde)
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10 years ago

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